I will say that it's the least-demanding MMO I've ever played, probably the one with the chillest community. Could always grab the free trial and find out :V
Okay honestly I landed on xyx route on my first try and I was like, oh no he's for sure he's exactly my type! I've already played what will be the best route on my first D=
But then!!!! All the outher boys' routes hit. Like xyx is still my fave boy but I can't pick a fave route cuz they were all so goooood
Thankyou so much it was so fun i finished all the routes and I'll be replaying like 5 of them again (cuz the voice acters popped off like omfg)
Never have I ever felt so in love the moment my first call was Quest. I believe it's because of my kind interaction but- I did got the bad ending first (Don't worry, I use the guide this time for the good ending and for the rest of the characters.). Now that I finish the whole game + all and each good and bad endings, I'll be in my corner to sob.
But in all seriousness about the story, the arts (All three of it. The "fanarts", fanzine and characters arts.), the voice acting both extras and main characters, seriously everything, I LOVE IT! EVEN the discord feeling of the game, what else can I possible ask more?! I would definitely be playing other games made by you and your team!
Ah, sure! No spoilers so don't worry about my reply.
Quest's bad ending can be achieved when you press the second option, which is platonically option. I was kinda confused on why he seems to be disappointed after that because at my first gameplay, there was no other options (must have messed up my choices throughout in chats and calls) other than that. You'll see what happen next once you got to day 7, which is where the endings are.
So I've been playing otome games for many years, and NEVER have I been as obsessed with one as I am with Blooming Panic. I have replayed it more times than I can count- it's probably unhealthy at this point BUT I DON'T CARE. I've never been one to listen to video game soundtracks either, but I keep listening to the Blooming Panic theme on Spotify because it's so good and makes me happy. I also wrote my first fanfic of my entire life for this time. I've been devouring as much fanfic as I can find because I need more and even though there's a decent amount out there, it's not enough. What the fuck have you done to me Robobarbie?!?
P.S. THE VA'S ARE ALL SO SO SO SO SO GOOD.
P.P.S I would pay good money for an official onionthief route, or DLC, or a sequel, or other extra content. I'm begging.
I LOVED THIS GAME SO MUCH!!!! i got through all the endings (excluding the good ending for nightowl because he was so icky to me but no hate to nightowl lovers!) and I LOVED THEM ALL. xyx had to be my fav with toasty in second and the true ending was amazing and was exactly what i wanted out of this game. PLEASE ADD MORE ROUTES! Onion would be such a fun one and either Lady or June for all my wlw girlies! AMAZING GAME LITERALLY THE BEST IVE PLAYED
THIS GAME IS SOOO CUTE i was pleasantly surprised!!
I unintentionally got xyx's route first and FYBJKHBKJ its SOOOO GOOD his voice is so VJGUHILGJKHIL
I just finished nightowls route and man i love him so much. I love how the correct pronouns are included in the calls!!
MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!
I cant stand onion tho xD I feel like he should of gave nightowl a way better apology and how just rude he is to xyx, bleh. I bet its just part of his character but man I can't stand him xDD
This game has ruined me. Never in my life did I ever think I would even be the slightest bit ok being called kitten by a discord mod this game, I wake up in a cold sweat and find myself logged into XIV when I dont even play MMO's, images of teslas with fedoras and nonbinary catboys haunt me. But most of all I will never be able to recover from the loss I felt when I finished this game and realized there wasn't more. I felt the grief of mourning a lost lover, will my heart ever beat again...?
On a serious note, I loved the game! Great writing and art, but the favorite thing about it was probably the soundtrack. I set the opening to be my alarm, so now I can wake up to their voices everyday until I get sick of it (which I wont). I look forward to playing the devs other releases <3
I played a lot of visual novel games and I can say that this is one of my all time faves! I love Quest so much, he's just so adorable 😭 Thank you for creating this lovely and fun vng, devs! 🥺
NOT EVEN KIDDING WHEN I SAY THIS HAS GOT TO BE MY FAV GAMES IVE PLAYED THIS YEAR.... i came onto itch.io just trying to look for something to spend the time and I END UP COMPLETELY HOOKED WITH THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S SO GOOD I HAVE NO WORDS AT ALL ? ITS SO EPRFECTJREKGHERG.H.R/R/J.... I AM SO OVERWHELMED WITH EMOTIONS...
saving toasty for last WAS DEFINITELY THE BEST WAY TO GO ABT THIS!!!!!!!! I LOVE EVERYTHING ABT THIS GAME IDEK WHERE TO START.. THE VOICE ACTING? THE SERVER ITSELF AND HOW REAL THE MEMBERS FELT?? THE CHARACTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! OFC!!! THE STORY1/1?!!?! EVERYTHING LEAVES ME SO BREATHLESS OMG AND I LOVE SALO.
IM REALLY SO!!!!!!!!11 SPEECHLESS!!!!!!1 I WILL 100% REPLAY ALL THIS AGAIN IN THE MORNING WITH EARPHONES TO HEAR THEIR VOICES MORE PROPERLY . ANYWAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TO EVERYONE WHOS WORKED ON THIS THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you have left such a dear space in my heart!!!!!!!!!!
lord i want this on IOS badly- so i can take the boys everywhere! But obviously that takes a buncha work. Just know that this game got my heart and soul immediately, love it dearly!
New obsession unlocked. I love this game so much! The characters feel like real people and all four LI's are such fun to play through. I REFUSE to play the sad endings, I cannot do it, my heart would break.
Also, I was surprised that mr. Troll, aka xyx, turned out to be my favourite. 10/10 must protect the precious boy. Massive kudos to the VA as well cause damn...
I finally finished all the routes! I was waiting to get them all before writing a comment and I have to say that I LOVE IT!!!! All the characters are so well written, with realistic traits that makes you empathize with them, with problems that anyone could have.
The playthrough doesn't get boring at all and it does give you the vibe of a real server. I have to admit that the walkthrough did help me a lot, especially to get xyx's route, but it was so worth it.
I fell for xyx, his voice had me melting and he was funny, definitelly my favorite of the four.
NakedToaster was so endearing, I just really wanted to braid his hair since the first time I saw his character art and it made me happy when it happened in the story.
Thank you, THANK YOU!!! For creating this awesome game and making me happy, I had something to look forward to, I could relate with our character, since life has been really stressful and this helped me relax. So thank you a lot, again, because I will never get to say that enough.
THIS GAME IS SO GOOD!!! I freaking love it, the characters are so endearing, salo is so cute i love him sm!!<3 And the voice acting omg SO GOOD!! ALSO THE ART, love it.
I've had this game for months and I LOVE it, I replay it all the time! it's so fun and so cute I cannot explain how much I love Quest as well dcfyvgui HES THE BEST.
VOICE ACTING!! JOKES!!! AND THE INTERACTION!!!! THE ART!! EVEN THE BOT OMG SOOOO GOOOD!!!! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!
CONTAIN SPOILER!!!
My fav is Quest and Xyx, as the story progress they become an opposite from their first impression.
Quest first impression is like soft hugable teddy bear but OMG HE SUCH A TEASER IN THE END, HE TOO MUCH (｡・//ε//・｡)TOTALLY A MAN WHO CAN DO BOTH(being cute and sexy) ⁄(⁄ ⁄•⁄-⁄•⁄ ⁄)⁄
Xyx look like funny mysterious guy at first, SUCH A TEASER WITH NICE TONGUE ;). BUT HE ACTUALLY A MASSIVE SOFTIE!!! When he try to hide the fact he care about Cat(also i realize he sniffing in call when he tell the mc that Cat is not doing well. Did he actually crying? OwO) I WANT TO HUG, AND TO PROTECC HIM!!!!
I love Toasty too, i enjoy the lore time, and he cute when blushing and stuttering(tbh i love every blushing boi hehe)
Doesnt really enjoy Nightowl, He kinda impulsive and possesive and tbh make me uncomfy. BUT! Its okay if anyone else love him, they can have their own preference. UvU
this is just a marvelous experience, through and through. the writers put they whole foot in this... also the voice actors.... ahhhhh~ so good! and the art was so pretty and cute! and i loved the music too~! ahhh~ this whole game is just fabulous. thank you so much for sharing! <3
"Are you blushing yet?" YESSS!!!! The flirting and teasing definitely made me grin and blush all throughout the story. The story is really cute! The art? The voice? The lines? The characters? <333 Totally loveable! I just finished Quest's route and bro got me blushing all throughout. Thanks for a great game!
I really like Quest! He's really reliable, and I'm very relieved to be with him. Even in the daily conversations in other lines, Quest hit the spot for me right away.
The other guys' lines are also very complete, and their personalities are all very distinct and interesting, and I love them too!
The other guys in the server are not tools either, they are all very vivid, like I really have a group of friends on the internet that I can communicate with~.
Thanks to robobarbie for presenting us with such a wonderful work!
man i could say this is the BEST GAME i played in years. I never had such a deep conexion with a game character before meet NakedToaster. i love him so much, his voice actor made a brilliant job. thank you so much to bring such a beautiful boy to us. <3 (and to his voice actor: YOU'RE THE BEST! i hope to hear you again in another game. your voice is truly beautiful.)
overall:
the storyline was really good, i was expecting something more simple but i had a nice surprise! i laughed in various moments (and i'm rly difficult to laught usually), the design was beautiful, the colors are so pleasant to my eyes (the dark style of the chat, cute backgrounds)... all the voice actors made a good job to bring life to the characters.
i create an account here just to say that. that game deserves EVERYTHING.
OK. I JUST FINISHED THE GAME AND O.M.G THAT WAS LITERALLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I HAVE PLAYED IT WAS LITERALLY AMAZING I'M DYING (Out of them all my favorite is definitely Xyx, my fucking god o((>ω< ))o)
copy paste of my review here because I'm having feelings and I need to share them with the world. thanks
here goes:
THIS IS SO GOOD ???? seriously wow
my obsession hyperfixation with Our Life led me to find a meme in which Our Life, ERROR143 and Blooming Panic where mentioned, having already tried ERROR143 I decided to give Blooming Panic a try and BOY was I not disappointed !!!!
also really loving the inclusivity/pronouns option. I love games where I can live my gay romance fantasies to the fullest. I stay away from most Otome games, even if some looks really interesting, because having my MC be a girl makes my transmasc self feel a little icky at times so yeah being referred to with masc terms really makes the whole experience that much better tbh. <333
ps: Xyx can keep my heart it's ok I don't need it anymore anyway
kjsfbkjsgb edit** ps 2: AAAAAAAAA i had yet to do Toasty's route when i posted this and quite frankly i wasn't expecting to fall in love with him toooo ;___; jfc (also also god idk if i'll ever have the heart to do the bad ends jhsjkghksj)
I love all the characters so much that I can't pick a fav 😭 All the plot twists tho- It's amazing how someone can come up with them! I was soo surprised with each one that it took me a while to register everything HAHA Such a rollercoaster~ Definitely one of my fav games now. Thank you for making this 💜
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I love nakedtoaster and xyx routes the most. I enjoyed a lot.
this isn't related to bloompanini but is final fantasy any good for a person who's never played MMOs before??
I will say that it's the least-demanding MMO I've ever played, probably the one with the chillest community. Could always grab the free trial and find out :V
with free expansion up till level 60??? nakedtoaster vibes fr
Okay honestly I landed on xyx route on my first try and I was like, oh no he's for sure he's exactly my type! I've already played what will be the best route on my first D=
But then!!!! All the outher boys' routes hit. Like xyx is still my fave boy but I can't pick a fave route cuz they were all so goooood
Thankyou so much it was so fun i finished all the routes and I'll be replaying like 5 of them again (cuz the voice acters popped off like omfg)
HIIIII, I know this is a rlly hard thing to do but can u make a mobile version? >_<
Try JoiPlay legacy mode; other users have reported good results. Your experience may vary depending on hardware, Android version, etc.
https://twitter.com/robo_barbie/status/1605134047285456897
Thank you!s
I Love this so much so cute all the good boys <3
Never have I ever felt so in love the moment my first call was Quest. I believe it's because of my kind interaction but- I did got the bad ending first (Don't worry, I use the guide this time for the good ending and for the rest of the characters.). Now that I finish the whole game + all and each good and bad endings, I'll be in my corner to sob.
But in all seriousness about the story, the arts (All three of it. The "fanarts", fanzine and characters arts.), the voice acting both extras and main characters, seriously everything, I LOVE IT! EVEN the discord feeling of the game, what else can I possible ask more?! I would definitely be playing other games made by you and your team!
can you explain the bad ending for Quest?
Ah, sure! No spoilers so don't worry about my reply.
Quest's bad ending can be achieved when you press the second option, which is platonically option. I was kinda confused on why he seems to be disappointed after that because at my first gameplay, there was no other options (must have messed up my choices throughout in chats and calls) other than that. You'll see what happen next once you got to day 7, which is where the endings are.
So I've been playing otome games for many years, and NEVER have I been as obsessed with one as I am with Blooming Panic. I have replayed it more times than I can count- it's probably unhealthy at this point BUT I DON'T CARE. I've never been one to listen to video game soundtracks either, but I keep listening to the Blooming Panic theme on Spotify because it's so good and makes me happy. I also wrote my first fanfic of my entire life for this time. I've been devouring as much fanfic as I can find because I need more and even though there's a decent amount out there, it's not enough. What the fuck have you done to me Robobarbie?!?
P.S. THE VA'S ARE ALL SO SO SO SO SO GOOD.
P.P.S I would pay good money for an official onionthief route, or DLC, or a sequel, or other extra content. I'm begging.
I LOVED THIS GAME SO MUCH!!!! i got through all the endings (excluding the good ending for nightowl because he was so icky to me but no hate to nightowl lovers!) and I LOVED THEM ALL. xyx had to be my fav with toasty in second and the true ending was amazing and was exactly what i wanted out of this game. PLEASE ADD MORE ROUTES! Onion would be such a fun one and either Lady or June for all my wlw girlies! AMAZING GAME LITERALLY THE BEST IVE PLAYED
YESS IMAGINE BIGLADY/JUNE/ONION HAVING ROUTESS!!!
THIS GAME IS SOOO CUTE i was pleasantly surprised!!
I unintentionally got xyx's route first and FYBJKHBKJ its SOOOO GOOD his voice is so VJGUHILGJKHIL
I just finished nightowls route and man i love him so much. I love how the correct pronouns are included in the calls!!
MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!
I cant stand onion tho xD I feel like he should of gave nightowl a way better apology and how just rude he is to xyx, bleh. I bet its just part of his character but man I can't stand him xDD
This game has ruined me. Never in my life did I ever think I would even be the slightest bit ok being called kitten by a discord mod this game, I wake up in a cold sweat and find myself logged into XIV when I dont even play MMO's, images of teslas with fedoras and nonbinary catboys haunt me. But most of all I will never be able to recover from the loss I felt when I finished this game and realized there wasn't more. I felt the grief of mourning a lost lover, will my heart ever beat again...?
On a serious note, I loved the game! Great writing and art, but the favorite thing about it was probably the soundtrack. I set the opening to be my alarm, so now I can wake up to their voices everyday until I get sick of it (which I wont). I look forward to playing the devs other releases <3
I played a lot of visual novel games and I can say that this is one of my all time faves! I love Quest so much, he's just so adorable 😭 Thank you for creating this lovely and fun vng, devs! 🥺
NOOO i got bad ending for xyx and now im actually gonna start cryingggg noo my friend!! how do i get good ending? ;{
same i just finished the bad ending ....
it legit made me cry! im glad there are other paths and the creator will tell you how to get to them
NOT EVEN KIDDING WHEN I SAY THIS HAS GOT TO BE MY FAV GAMES IVE PLAYED THIS YEAR.... i came onto itch.io just trying to look for something to spend the time and I END UP COMPLETELY HOOKED WITH THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S SO GOOD I HAVE NO WORDS AT ALL ? ITS SO EPRFECTJREKGHERG.H.R/R/J.... I AM SO OVERWHELMED WITH EMOTIONS...
saving toasty for last WAS DEFINITELY THE BEST WAY TO GO ABT THIS!!!!!!!! I LOVE EVERYTHING ABT THIS GAME IDEK WHERE TO START.. THE VOICE ACTING? THE SERVER ITSELF AND HOW REAL THE MEMBERS FELT?? THE CHARACTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! OFC!!! THE STORY1/1?!!?! EVERYTHING LEAVES ME SO BREATHLESS OMG AND I LOVE SALO.
IM REALLY SO!!!!!!!!11 SPEECHLESS!!!!!!1 I WILL 100% REPLAY ALL THIS AGAIN IN THE MORNING WITH EARPHONES TO HEAR THEIR VOICES MORE PROPERLY . ANYWAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TO EVERYONE WHOS WORKED ON THIS THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you have left such a dear space in my heart!!!!!!!!!!
lord i want this on IOS badly- so i can take the boys everywhere! But obviously that takes a buncha work. Just know that this game got my heart and soul immediately, love it dearly!
New obsession unlocked. I love this game so much! The characters feel like real people and all four LI's are such fun to play through. I REFUSE to play the sad endings, I cannot do it, my heart would break.
Also, I was surprised that mr. Troll, aka xyx, turned out to be my favourite. 10/10 must protect the precious boy. Massive kudos to the VA as well cause damn...
EVERYONE should play this game!
O_O I don't have words to express how amazing this game is. It took over my life and I couldn't do anything else until I'd played through each route.
just started playing and loving it!! As my friend's circle local hater absolutely loving onion thie
I finally finished all the routes! I was waiting to get them all before writing a comment and I have to say that I LOVE IT!!!! All the characters are so well written, with realistic traits that makes you empathize with them, with problems that anyone could have.
The playthrough doesn't get boring at all and it does give you the vibe of a real server. I have to admit that the walkthrough did help me a lot, especially to get xyx's route, but it was so worth it.
I fell for xyx, his voice had me melting and he was funny, definitelly my favorite of the four.
NakedToaster was so endearing, I just really wanted to braid his hair since the first time I saw his character art and it made me happy when it happened in the story.
Thank you, THANK YOU!!! For creating this awesome game and making me happy, I had something to look forward to, I could relate with our character, since life has been really stressful and this helped me relax. So thank you a lot, again, because I will never get to say that enough.
THIS GAME IS SO GOOD!!! I freaking love it, the characters are so endearing, salo is so cute i love him sm!!<3 And the voice acting omg SO GOOD!! ALSO THE ART, love it.
i need a big lady and onionthief route so baaad
xyx and nakedtoaster<33333
literally my fav game on here
I've had this game for months and I LOVE it, I replay it all the time! it's so fun and so cute I cannot explain how much I love Quest as well dcfyvgui HES THE BEST.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS MASTERPIECE!
I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!
VOICE ACTING!! JOKES!!! AND THE INTERACTION!!!! THE ART!! EVEN THE BOT OMG SOOOO GOOOD!!!! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT!
CONTAIN SPOILER!!!
My fav is Quest and Xyx, as the story progress they become an opposite from their first impression.
Quest first impression is like soft hugable teddy bear but OMG HE SUCH A TEASER IN THE END, HE TOO MUCH (｡・//ε//・｡)TOTALLY A MAN WHO CAN DO BOTH(being cute and sexy) ⁄(⁄ ⁄•⁄-⁄•⁄ ⁄)⁄
Xyx look like funny mysterious guy at first, SUCH A TEASER WITH NICE TONGUE ;). BUT HE ACTUALLY A MASSIVE SOFTIE!!! When he try to hide the fact he care about Cat(also i realize he sniffing in call when he tell the mc that Cat is not doing well. Did he actually crying? OwO) I WANT TO HUG, AND TO PROTECC HIM!!!!
I love Toasty too, i enjoy the lore time, and he cute when blushing and stuttering(tbh i love every blushing boi hehe)
Doesnt really enjoy Nightowl, He kinda impulsive and possesive and tbh make me uncomfy. BUT! Its okay if anyone else love him, they can have their own preference. UvU
in love with this game, the writing, the characters everything 😭 i need more of it
this is just a marvelous experience, through and through. the writers put they whole foot in this... also the voice actors.... ahhhhh~ so good! and the art was so pretty and cute! and i loved the music too~! ahhh~ this whole game is just fabulous. thank you so much for sharing! <3
Okay i downloaded but how do i play it? on windows btw
"Are you blushing yet?" YESSS!!!! The flirting and teasing definitely made me grin and blush all throughout the story. The story is really cute! The art? The voice? The lines? The characters? <333 Totally loveable! I just finished Quest's route and bro got me blushing all throughout. Thanks for a great game!
does anyone actually know what xyx's job is or am i just oblivious
xyx is the love of my life, nothing compares to him. my only wish is that i knew his real name bcs no way in hell i'm able to pronounce that out loud
I really like Quest! He's really reliable, and I'm very relieved to be with him. Even in the daily conversations in other lines, Quest hit the spot for me right away.
The other guys' lines are also very complete, and their personalities are all very distinct and interesting, and I love them too!
The other guys in the server are not tools either, they are all very vivid, like I really have a group of friends on the internet that I can communicate with~.
Thanks to robobarbie for presenting us with such a wonderful work!
This game was addicting, it put a genuine smile on my face aswell. I adore this game!! 10/10 would recommend (ps. xyx is the best)
Instructions unclear. I am playing final fantasy now.
god, that is fucking hilarious, I almost did the same thing.
This is just a game trying to get us to play FF isn't it!? Jk! I love it so muchhhh
man i could say this is the BEST GAME i played in years. I never had such a deep conexion with a game character before meet NakedToaster. i love him so much, his voice actor made a brilliant job. thank you so much to bring such a beautiful boy to us. <3 (and to his voice actor: YOU'RE THE BEST! i hope to hear you again in another game. your voice is truly beautiful.)
overall:
the storyline was really good, i was expecting something more simple but i had a nice surprise! i laughed in various moments (and i'm rly difficult to laught usually), the design was beautiful, the colors are so pleasant to my eyes (the dark style of the chat, cute backgrounds)... all the voice actors made a good job to bring life to the characters.
i create an account here just to say that. that game deserves EVERYTHING.
OK. I JUST FINISHED THE GAME AND O.M.G THAT WAS LITERALLY ONE OF THE BEST THINGS I HAVE PLAYED IT WAS LITERALLY AMAZING I'M DYING (Out of them all my favorite is definitely Xyx, my fucking god o((>ω< ))o)
STOPP I'M LITERALLY IN TEARS OVER XYX'S BAD ENDING NAW WHYYYY IS IT SOOOO SADDD 😭😭😭
WAHHH IM IN LOVE WITH THIS GAME , BUT WHYYY NIGHTOWL IS SOOO~CUTEEEE!?? HE MELTED MY HEARTTTT !!!!!
I love this game I'm obsessed 😍✨❤️
me too~ wahhh i just love nightowl~...
AGREED! Nightowl is my favorite, and my second is xyx
mike young had absolutely no reason to eat up xyx's voice the way he did.
I CANT GET OVER IT XYX'S VOICE IS SO FHGDSUFEB
RIGHT RIGHT RIIIGHT
copy paste of my review here because I'm having feelings and I need to share them with the world. thanks
here goes:
THIS IS SO GOOD ???? seriously wow
my
obsessionhyperfixation with Our Life led me to find a meme in which Our Life, ERROR143 and Blooming Panic where mentioned, having already tried ERROR143 I decided to give Blooming Panic a try and BOY was I not disappointed !!!!also really loving the inclusivity/pronouns option. I love games where I can live my gay romance fantasies to the fullest. I stay away from most Otome games, even if some looks really interesting, because having my MC be a girl makes my transmasc self feel a little icky at times so yeah being referred to with masc terms really makes the whole experience that much better tbh. <333
ps: Xyx can keep my heart it's ok I don't need it anymore anyway
kjsfbkjsgb edit** ps 2: AAAAAAAAA i had yet to do Toasty's route when i posted this and quite frankly i wasn't expecting to fall in love with him toooo ;___; jfc (also also god idk if i'll ever have the heart to do the bad ends jhsjkghksj)
the music is sooo good too!! !
(and attached meme for your viewing pleasure:)
I love all the characters so much that I can't pick a fav 😭 All the plot twists tho- It's amazing how someone can come up with them! I was soo surprised with each one that it took me a while to register everything HAHA Such a rollercoaster~ Definitely one of my fav games now. Thank you for making this 💜
UGH! WHY AREN'T THESE MEN REALLLL?!?!?!?!?! TOT